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		<title>By: Bookfraud</title>
		<link>http://bookfraud.com/2008/04/07/race-to-the-top/comment-page-1/#comment-6051</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookfraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;kofi&lt;/b&gt;: well, it&#039;s not like there&#039;s a ton of examples to make my point besides anatole broyard. 

i will definitely check out &quot;our kind of people.&quot; 

how much does &quot;passing&quot; happen today? not that i&#039;m assuming you would know because of your ethnic background...

&lt;b&gt;bakannal&lt;/b&gt;: i&#039;ve never met anyone with that kind of tone to their skin. it makes it sound like acrylic paint.

also, if someone is white, usually they&#039;re &quot;white.&quot; not much exposition on what shade of white.

&lt;b&gt;britta coleman&lt;/b&gt;: thanks for stopping by and the comment. interesting questions you have there, and it shows some depth of artistry for even asking them. me, i just write full steam ahead without such considerations.

what is it like in east texas -- like louisiana, but with bad food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>kofi</b>: well, it&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s a ton of examples to make my point besides anatole broyard. </p>
<p>i will definitely check out &#8220;our kind of people.&#8221; </p>
<p>how much does &#8220;passing&#8221; happen today? not that i&#8217;m assuming you would know because of your ethnic background&#8230;</p>
<p><b>bakannal</b>: i&#8217;ve never met anyone with that kind of tone to their skin. it makes it sound like acrylic paint.</p>
<p>also, if someone is white, usually they&#8217;re &#8220;white.&#8221; not much exposition on what shade of white.</p>
<p><b>britta coleman</b>: thanks for stopping by and the comment. interesting questions you have there, and it shows some depth of artistry for even asking them. me, i just write full steam ahead without such considerations.</p>
<p>what is it like in east texas &#8212; like louisiana, but with bad food?</p>
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		<title>By: Bookfraud</title>
		<link>http://bookfraud.com/2008/04/07/race-to-the-top/comment-page-1/#comment-6050</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookfraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;collin&lt;/b&gt;: interesting angle; did you talk to (or read about) katrina survivors? i&#039;m sure they have some strong words.

&lt;b&gt;leigh&lt;/b&gt;: of course, you are right. one should strive for diversity, if it suits the work. does one do &quot;research&quot; in the typical manner of the word, or simply imagine? 

there&#039;s no typical &quot;black&quot; experience in this country (just like there&#039;s no typical &quot;jewish&quot; experience), but there are stereotypes. and i guess fiction will kill stereotypes; at least that&#039;s the idea, eh?

&lt;b&gt;bernita&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;i&gt;his color [sic] wasn&#039;t the most important thing about him anyway.&lt;/i&gt; absolutely. great point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>collin</b>: interesting angle; did you talk to (or read about) katrina survivors? i&#8217;m sure they have some strong words.</p>
<p><b>leigh</b>: of course, you are right. one should strive for diversity, if it suits the work. does one do &#8220;research&#8221; in the typical manner of the word, or simply imagine? </p>
<p>there&#8217;s no typical &#8220;black&#8221; experience in this country (just like there&#8217;s no typical &#8220;jewish&#8221; experience), but there are stereotypes. and i guess fiction will kill stereotypes; at least that&#8217;s the idea, eh?</p>
<p><b>bernita</b>: <i>his color [sic] wasn&#8217;t the most important thing about him anyway.</i> absolutely. great point</p>
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		<title>By: Britta Coleman</title>
		<link>http://bookfraud.com/2008/04/07/race-to-the-top/comment-page-1/#comment-6048</link>
		<dc:creator>Britta Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, and an interesting question.  I&#039;m working on my second novel, set in East Texas, which has a diverse population.  My goal is to reflect that naturally within the work.  The trick is to stay away from stereotypes and challenge myself: Why is this major/minor character white or black?  How would race reconfigure the character arc, and what would it mean for the novel as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and an interesting question.  I&#8217;m working on my second novel, set in East Texas, which has a diverse population.  My goal is to reflect that naturally within the work.  The trick is to stay away from stereotypes and challenge myself: Why is this major/minor character white or black?  How would race reconfigure the character arc, and what would it mean for the novel as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: bakannal</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakannal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An aside. Why is it some writers describe their black characters as &#039;dark and smooth like an eggplant?&quot; Where I&#039;m from an eggplant, or boulanger as we  know it, is purple. He&#039;s so black he&#039;s purple? I&#039;ve never seen anyone that black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An aside. Why is it some writers describe their black characters as &#8216;dark and smooth like an eggplant?&#8221; Where I&#8217;m from an eggplant, or boulanger as we  know it, is purple. He&#8217;s so black he&#8217;s purple? I&#8217;ve never seen anyone that black.</p>
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		<title>By: Kofi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you should mention Anatole Broyard.  Lawrence Otis Graham&#039;s second book, &quot;Our Kind of People,&quot; is all about people like Mr. Broyard, who either passed or were light enough to do so.  A disturbing but fascinating read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you should mention Anatole Broyard.  Lawrence Otis Graham&#8217;s second book, &#8220;Our Kind of People,&#8221; is all about people like Mr. Broyard, who either passed or were light enough to do so.  A disturbing but fascinating read.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmn, an interesting guy walked into my first short story. He&#039;ll probably show up again. Turned out he was black, but I saw no point in emphasizing it, because I don&#039;t care for ostentatious introductions, to &quot;prove&quot; I am or am not this or that. His colour wasn&#039;t the most important thing about him anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmn, an interesting guy walked into my first short story. He&#8217;ll probably show up again. Turned out he was black, but I saw no point in emphasizing it, because I don&#8217;t care for ostentatious introductions, to &#8220;prove&#8221; I am or am not this or that. His colour wasn&#8217;t the most important thing about him anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think rellis makes a good point: when used in a political context, a white woman writing as an African-American man (or as a half-white/half-Native American woman, e.g. Peggy Seltzer/Margaret Jones) will likely ring false but if I&#039;m creating a work of fiction that I want populated by a diverse group of characters, why can&#039;t I include black, Mexican, Asian, gay, etc. characters?  

As for kofi&#039;s comment about not writing the &quot;correct&quot; African American experience, that which is accepted as mainstream, I think that simply perpetuates the literary stereotype.  I, as a reader, want to know more about the many different kinds of &quot;black&quot; experience - whether it&#039;s growing up in a suburb or the city, in the northeast or the southwest. You as the individual will make the story both unique and universal, not your cultural identification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think rellis makes a good point: when used in a political context, a white woman writing as an African-American man (or as a half-white/half-Native American woman, e.g. Peggy Seltzer/Margaret Jones) will likely ring false but if I&#8217;m creating a work of fiction that I want populated by a diverse group of characters, why can&#8217;t I include black, Mexican, Asian, gay, etc. characters?  </p>
<p>As for kofi&#8217;s comment about not writing the &#8220;correct&#8221; African American experience, that which is accepted as mainstream, I think that simply perpetuates the literary stereotype.  I, as a reader, want to know more about the many different kinds of &#8220;black&#8221; experience &#8211; whether it&#8217;s growing up in a suburb or the city, in the northeast or the southwest. You as the individual will make the story both unique and universal, not your cultural identification.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collin Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been writing about race a good bit lately. Most of the new chapbook has some type of racial element to it, esp. when it comes to this administration&#039;s actions during Hurricane Katrina. Shameful, shameful stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been writing about race a good bit lately. Most of the new chapbook has some type of racial element to it, esp. when it comes to this administration&#8217;s actions during Hurricane Katrina. Shameful, shameful stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: bookfraud</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookfraud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;reellis&lt;/b&gt;: go ahead and steal the idea for your own blog. just make the check out to &quot;cash.&quot;

i find it fascinating that your years in the deep south has informed your fiction writing -- and that the failure to tackle things head on lead you to give up on it. 

&quot;they&quot; say one should try writing from the opposite gender&#039;s point of view (or that of another ethnicity) just as an exercise. but academia, and other students, are pretty dead set against the idea in practice. but you&#039;re not allowed to change your thinking.

&lt;b&gt;writtenwyrrd&lt;/b&gt;: i was kind of wondering about what that mess regarding the evil dwarf. 

it&#039;s interesting how you&#039;ve had conflict between difference &quot;human&quot; species, but not necessarily between different colors of humans. it can be just as powerful a metaphor, if done with a steady hand.

as far as hard-wiring is concerned, i think we are all programmed for at least a bit of tribalism -- simply open up the newspaper for evidence of that. when you have people who look alike killing each other because of what tribe they inhabit, then you know something is really messed up...

&lt;b&gt;bakannal&lt;/b&gt;: great comment; getting a totally different perspective really puts a fine point on this. maybe your fledgling novel is about race, but it sounds as if your experience is rich with possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>reellis</b>: go ahead and steal the idea for your own blog. just make the check out to &#8220;cash.&#8221;</p>
<p>i find it fascinating that your years in the deep south has informed your fiction writing &#8212; and that the failure to tackle things head on lead you to give up on it. </p>
<p>&#8220;they&#8221; say one should try writing from the opposite gender&#8217;s point of view (or that of another ethnicity) just as an exercise. but academia, and other students, are pretty dead set against the idea in practice. but you&#8217;re not allowed to change your thinking.</p>
<p><b>writtenwyrrd</b>: i was kind of wondering about what that mess regarding the evil dwarf. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s interesting how you&#8217;ve had conflict between difference &#8220;human&#8221; species, but not necessarily between different colors of humans. it can be just as powerful a metaphor, if done with a steady hand.</p>
<p>as far as hard-wiring is concerned, i think we are all programmed for at least a bit of tribalism &#8212; simply open up the newspaper for evidence of that. when you have people who look alike killing each other because of what tribe they inhabit, then you know something is really messed up&#8230;</p>
<p><b>bakannal</b>: great comment; getting a totally different perspective really puts a fine point on this. maybe your fledgling novel is about race, but it sounds as if your experience is rich with possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: bakannal</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakannal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The race issue is one that is continuously simmering in my country, Guyana. About half of the population is of Indian descent with blacks comprising about 40 percent. The ruling party is predominantly Indian while the main opposition is...you got it. This makes for interesting times when general elections come around. There is a kind of uneasy peace between these two races that at times is fractured by criminals. The perception is that the Indians have the money and the majority of bandits are blacks. Open racial hostility is very rare with everyone walking around minding their words for fear of being labelled racist. Thing is, lots of the black folks I know think that their travails are a result of their race.  Ok, this comment is going, going....     
It just happens that my fledgling attempt at a novel focuses on the life and times of an Indian family living in a black community. Yeah, another black writer and race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The race issue is one that is continuously simmering in my country, Guyana. About half of the population is of Indian descent with blacks comprising about 40 percent. The ruling party is predominantly Indian while the main opposition is&#8230;you got it. This makes for interesting times when general elections come around. There is a kind of uneasy peace between these two races that at times is fractured by criminals. The perception is that the Indians have the money and the majority of bandits are blacks. Open racial hostility is very rare with everyone walking around minding their words for fear of being labelled racist. Thing is, lots of the black folks I know think that their travails are a result of their race.  Ok, this comment is going, going&#8230;.<br />
It just happens that my fledgling attempt at a novel focuses on the life and times of an Indian family living in a black community. Yeah, another black writer and race.</p>
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